JeffH- I knew about that, but if you have to go in the CR2 you might as well fix it there, I was sort of hopeing there was a "secret" keystroke combination to make all the dials visable. I went through most of the CR2 yesterday, (well, the right side, anyway), the only other offset I noticed was on the head, so it isn't as bad as I thought. Maybe I'll put a fixed CR2 in freestuff, as well as putting the information up here for people that want to do it theirselves. Anyway, I'm suprised this one got past Zygote, I sort of get the impressions that the translations are intentional, to fix some problem they had with Vickie's object, some problem they later fixed in the mesh.