I love your effects package and have used it in quite a few images, usually the ones where Bryce tells you to go get another life while it does the render. lol 8) Can't wait for the download link 'cos I miss them. I'm going to get and external HD for storage and hopefully, since I'll only use it to retrieve things and not for constant use, it won't crash like the last one. Cheers Foley 8) Catlin