I guess I'll just have to live with it :o( I updated everything (spybot, adaware, IE6 service pack)...close, but no cigar Also, I reformatted my nephew's hd last night - spybot found 146 malware items, that refused to die. I can't even see the logic in all that stuff, because the pc was unusable - I couldn't even get the Start button to work - so you HAVE to reformat. If the malware was a bit less destructive guys like him wouldn't even know it was there, would surf blissfully on, which is what you'd think the malware people want.