heyas; jeff, does that work better/different than showing the prop center deal? personally, i would just export the thang as an obj when i have it lined up the way i want... group tool spawning might be quicker. and you'd need to re-adjust the center, wouldn't you? i mean, if you moved the center off center...? also, mike, i'd try sticking the center of the sword down in the hilt, or at the end of the hilt. then after you stick it in somebody's hand, you could resize it and the hilt will stay put while the rest of the thing shrinks towards it. (um, or it should work that way. :) ) it will also rotate from that point, too.