Quarker (?) has been in the top list a few times, and Farrah is my favorite Judy morph set. Rammy, it's ok -- I've gone off a few times about this myself. Not excusable for bad manners, but I definitely understand the sentiment. Here we are, in a group that is a majority in number by several (not just my own) measures of the market (recent promo stuff from CL at various places has indidcated the P5 user base is larger than the P4 user base), with many new features, and: 1- the largest content shop gives it short shrift (the individuals brokers through it do not, but the store itself does) 2- older, more heavily time invested creators are buried in old politics and ill will, and unwilling to open their minds 3- we have wonderful new tools, but so far only a few folks have really bothered to see what can be done with them. 4- as I've noted elsewhere, P5 is so darn new in so many ways that everyone is at the same level with it. As folks master it and adapt to it, there will be more stuff coming out, The slow acceptance (due in a great part to that poor functionality at first) being the greatest blow to it. 5- That hot 20 is still mostly composed of folks who don't develop for P5 for various reasons. And as long as the hot 20 -- which is determined by sales -- continues to be dominated by P4 product, that is what everyone will make. that first and last one suck the most. The first because it acts to further hinder and complicate the creation issue, and the last because the top 20 are there becuase they make the best selling stuff (ie, the stuff tht people are willing to spend money on). I will keep making no secret of the fact that Odd Ditty Foundry supports P5 in every product to some extent, and develops with P5 in mind. I'll go one more, too, and say now that if someone can't broker a P5 item through a different site, they can broker it through ODF -- at an equal or better percentage. (caveats - no exclusivity, still gotta pass our testers, and we're still tiny) It is most certainly a "P5 as well" thing -- P5 only is entirely limiting, for the reason I noted earlier: P4 users spend more money and are generally more familiar with the program than P5 users. Money has the loudest voice.

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)