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Okay time for my 2 cents lol.....(i seem to have alot of 2 cents lately lol) okay first of all the renderengine.. poser 5 does have the option to switch to the poser 4 render and back with the option to ignore shader trees or not. Poser 5 allows you to create render settings for test and Porfessional renders seperate so speed is no excuse just set it to the non professional part and set the options properly there are tons of sites out there with explinations on what to set it at for speed or quality (link above is one) second the Clothing room i do admit that the cloth room is a bit hard to get use to and not many publish enough info on it to there tutorials and/or sites but it does have lots of possability if people would just utilize all its options like hard decorated areas and such. The hair room.... basicaly it does blow so far as to the type of stuff out there that is available but i am sure that there is someone out there that can do something about that. i think the hair room was rushed and is a little too basic and could have been done better by CL but we all know that CL never rushes anything (rolls eyes at to the sarcasm in that statement) as for supposrting eather -4/pp or P5 why cant you eather supply runtimes for both or sell 2 diffrent packages for each. it cant be that much more work to zip 1 extra file. the meterial room..... yes it takes a bit to get use to and for someone to get high quality results you have to make a ton of nodes and settings but when you get use to it and know what your doing it is a breeze (like everything else out there in life) the amazeing thing about the material room is that you CAN get great quality with little work. the only down side i see is the face that if you make a saved setting in the material room say for Ve's head the nyou will have to select each head material area and click the saved node setting and do that for EACH Material section for the head. as for the poser 5 stuff not selling and people not useing Poser 5 . 1: there arnt many things out there for Poser 5 people to buy so they have to settle for the P4 stuff 2: people dont use poser 5 much because there isnt hardly anything out there FOR it. not the P5 People........ THEY SUCK. they look funny and is kinda hard to make look diffrent with NO MORPHS. okay i babbled i steped on toes and i not only stuck my foot in my mouth but shoved it down my throat as well lol shyly exiting room Grace37 ^_^