About the P4 Vs the P5 renderer.. yeah Firefly's slower.. know what? Lightwave's renderer is slower too.. and so is Maya's.... know why? they do more, and work harder. About P5 support... I just don't know any better. I use P5, and develope P5 and I can aways use MPE to make P4 mat files, and P3DO explorer to make RSR files. When I make those concessions for P4/PP users, it's more out of sympathy then anything else. They can't do some of the "cool" stuff, but at least I can make their life easier. That may sound crass, but I just about always upgrade to the latest release of anything, and hate living in the dark ages. And not supporting P5 and it's abilities will just hurt the poser community anyway.. people look at the older P4 renders, and compare them to the state of the art, and P4 looks sad in comparison. Firefly might not be the best thing out there, but at least it helps keep Poser a little more state of the art...

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.