And we now have an answer for the unlocked version too .. Water is still a flat surface .. as are the trees trunks when rendered .. the full version of Vue3 and even the Demo version does not have this limitation and renders ripples on water .. so for Vue3LE (full or limited) the renderer appears to have been downgraded. There is one more thing I need to test before uninstalling but for the moment it's not looking promissing ..