I don't like going personal or name an individual but then I must definitely pay credit where due. In the initial period of my Bryce work... I stank, very bad. For me, to get the whole render to look like a picture itself was a task well achieved. I was like.... I had created the rocket to the moon sorta euphoria. During this period.... I got several critics and suggestions from the well known couple in the Bryce Gallary, Hyperbhorea ( hope I got the spelling right). They gave me some wonderful tips on how to do things which included not just wordly comments or critis but they sent me links too o site wehre I could get stuff like free objects and textures and stuff and yes, they were the ones that told me about wings 3d and the art of modelling an object which till then was for me a mystery. I never excelled in that area (that is object making) but it was a tip worth while. I pay my respect to those honest critics who really wanted to help and improve me and polish my work. So in a way I agree with all of you that believe in Critics followed by suggestive correction, modification and improvement. There are sometimes very subtle things which sometimes are not visible to the common eye but which a good critic always catches and points out and could be of immense help not only in that particular render but in the many more to follow. For example, I remember doing high rise building near a beach sorta scene once. Everything about it seemed prefect and dreamy when I got a critic from an esteemed artist saying........ just look at your reflection on the water mate. you think the building is right on the banks of the sea shore and true enough...... viewed from the POV the reflection din't seem right and looked as if like a reflection of someone standing just on the edge of the beach........... he sent me a longgggggggg IM teaching me how to correct it etc since I had IMed him to tell me how to get over the issue. So, I am all for critic and suggestions without which it would be hard to learn this tool. But like someone just pointed out, a lot depends on the mood in which you read it and the language barrier is always there. Like English is not my mother language, its jsut an language I have learnt to communicate and I am sure I make plenty mistakes but I try to be polite and firm where need be to the best of my ability. Others maynot be able to do it......and others may not be able to read it the way it has been put. So I started this thread not to attack critics or put an end to it but to help discuss the ways and means of putting the critic across in the most subtle and suitable way possible so that everyone is happy. Like the amatures and the novice have to learn the art of Byrce and the critics expect much more from them the same way its time for the Critics to re read their Critics before hitting the send button. It is never harmful to be polite. :O)) Peace to all!! SNAKEY