:P This was my reply on that forum... "What Blaine seems to miss is that many people uses 3d prog to create an image as a form of art to EXPRESS themselves. I, for me, don't care less if for attaining my goal I use Adobe Photoshop, PSP, Poser, Bryce or a photocamera... what interests to me is to express myself - and if I'm not able to model a pretty realistic bric or a rusty nail and I have to download it from some freebie site, so it is... After all, Helmut Newton doesn't builded all the buildings or fathered all the models he photographed - but no one denies his photographs are ART... "