No need to apologise for having a different opinion. I really do like to hear everyones opinion, even when they don't match mine. I can't really comment on how bad, or otherwise D/S is because I have not or never will install it. I formed my opinion from what I have seen around the D/S galleries at various sites. Frankly, there is nothing to see. If D/S helps to get more people actively interested in 3D then that's a good thing, which is the point I was attempting to make in my earlier post. I just feel that the 'new people' will quickly move on to new pastures though! ie: Bryce!