I'll agree with Farside on this one. P5 is one of the most underated programs around. Lots of people often forget it has an excellent cloth room, material room on par with some 'high end' programs. Hang on theres more - The dynamic hair room, and of course the face room. DAZ are likely to scrap a full blown D/S now they have the outdated Dryice program. D/S looks set to become only a posing room linked to Bryce with a clumsy plugin. DAZ are steadily losing ground to innovative independants, like Sixus1 as an example. "things are on the move again" yes they are, in DAZ's case a downward spiral move.