I hate 2000b. I hate it so much I went and found a copy of 98 to install. Benefits? Well, 98 doesn't take up 25% of my system's resources, and it does EXACTLY what I need it to do, namely, talk and share files with my cohorts. It may even support intrest groups. If not, I'll stick with it. I can talk to you guys here. :) 2000b has SO MUCH stuff that I don't need and takes up a lot of my screen in addition to the resources. Hoborg