Heh, there are some really bitter and frankly anti-DAZ HATE-FILLED people here in the Poser Forum! Their hatred for all things DAZ seems to transcend everthing else! I've created threads on tons of different topics- GMAX, Game Render Engines, Z-Tooning, MAX, Lightwave, Pop Culture, --lots of things that that have NOTHING to do with DAZ- yet when something DAZ is the topic you get this "DAZ FanBoy", "People who think DAZ is GOD" fantical ranting? Nothing in my initial thread suggested people MUST BUY anything made by DAZ. I only made an observation that I basically said MIGHT work for them- a FREE download. You don't even have to use it,- just its cataloging feature- you can then delete it if it doesn't have the effect that I have noticed. Anti-DAZ people are using NAZI style thug tactics to come into other people's threads and spew anti-DAZ rants and personally attack people and call them names just for using or even casually mentioning DAZ products.