stemardue opened this issue on Aug 17, 2004 ยท 63 posts
Nosiferret posted Tue, 17 August 2004 at 11:00 AM
I think a lot of it stems from the fact that a lot of us are just starting out in this field, some will gradually progress and get better as they work more and more on things, while others who don't put a lot of time and effort into it will stay where they are. I know it took me a while to finally get enough nerve to post my "doodles" I'm a total noob, still am and not ashamed to admit it, but there are a lot of people out there who like me got the nerve to post something and it would kill them to get a bad comment. No body likes to do that and especially in the art field, artists have tender souls :) And a lot of people don't have the heart to leave anything remotely constructive, so they opt for the easy out and say "Excellent" but then they might also think the post is "excellent" in their eyes too. Personally, I would like for someone to comment on things that I might have over looked, but yes I'm scared poop-less that my stuff would get ripped to shreds and to some they'll never post their art again. So maybe those who post Excellent just don't want to offend the artist. Now, getting flamed for posting a "Good" or even making comments about the pose being off etc, I don't understand that, some people need to grow up I suppose. Like I mentioned above I encourage feedback because I'm a noob and I'm always forgetting something, like lighting! I think Renderosity should take away the Excellent, fair, good bad ugly and just make it comments only. If the artist doesn't want it rated, then I think they can mark it as such when they upload the image, but if you mark the rating system for that picture, people should grow up and expect there might be a Poor or good or whatever. Another thing is people sometimes feel as if they have to add an excellent or whatever onto other peoples art when that person has left a comment of such on their site. I think just plain comments should be it and get rid of the rating system. Yes there are some really excellent art out there, but use the english system and write down why you think it's excellent instead of just picking something from a list. I've been doing this Poser art since June of this year and while looking around for items and spending entirely too much money...I have noticed during my trips how much nudity is out there. I think I've discovered why there seems to be so much out there, it's a pita to get the figures dressed and if the guys looked half as good as the women, there would be more males running around in their b-day suits. There are some classic nudes, look at the Greek statues and the old paintings, when a nude is done tastefully regardless of the environment it's in I don't have a problem with it. What gets me is the visions some people have of making women that should in reality fall over every time they stand up or be doubled over like 100 year old women because their skinny backs have rotting discs from supporting all that boob weight. We can thank comic books for starting that I think, their concept of a female hero in real life just wouldn't be able to get out of a chair, yet alone beat up the villians. But then art is in the eye of the beholder, what we might consider as foul, others would see it as wonderful, they probably see our art as bland compared to theirs, so it's nice to be in a society where we can have such choices I suppose. During my surfing for Poser stuff I came across a posting form a person in China and he couldn't post anything sexual in content as it was against the law to do so. Kind of makes me glad I'm where I'm at regardless of the poopy art I have to sift thru. My father has a saying, opinions are like butts[he uses a different word that means butt, I think you know which one], everyone has one. I think if I marked that people can make comments and rank my art I should expect there to be honest opinions there and not fake. How else am I going to improve or learn better techniques if I'm thinking I'm doing it right all the time when in fact I'm not. But then I would like the comments to be truthful and not mean, constructive and not distructive. There are many ways you can say a pose is wrong or lighting is bad. Sometimes people just don't think I reckon. I even make comments on my own stuff pointing out areas that I think I pooched. At the same time me being a noob, I don't feel as if I'm expert enough to make comments on work other than what I like about a composite. Sex sells, it's a proven fact and I think the reason why nudes get more hits than others is I think we're all perverts in one way or another :). Sometimes the best way to show off a figure is simply by leaving it nude. It's a two edge sword either way you look at it. No one is ever going to please everybody. But I think not by looking at the galleries and not making comments you might miss out on helping new people. If you don't look at some or all of the galleries at least give the Beginner gallery a shot. Some of us out there would like to get some positive feed back, constructive comments. I think what the galleries need, is less ignoring and more constructive feedback as like weeds in the yard if they're not kept trimmed, they'll take over. If someone sends you hate mail, check out their work and leave comments on their site too :) I've probably ranted further than sephyn74 and probably repeated myself too. Not to mention I probably went off the topic here and there. But I'm a noob. Noob not boob...heh