I had already done some tests last night and this morning using foresters modified waiting room (which simply replaces the extra plants with some of the vue standard ones. Here are the results -Waiting Room (forester modified) -1600 x 1200 Final Render Settings (72 dpi) -Vue 4 Esprit on a Compaq Presario 2100 (1.8 ghz) AMD XP mobile Processor 512mb RAM, Windows XP Home -1 hour 44 minutes 37 seconds Waiting Room (forester modified) -1600 x 1200 Final Render Settings (72 dpi) -Vue 4 Professional on a HP workstation xw4100 (3.0 ghz) Pentium 4 Processor 512mb RAM, Hyperthreading Enabled, Windows XP Professional -1 hour 23 minutes 55 seconds I won't have time to run more tests until tommorrow at the earliest so hopefully this works.