A) Up until P5 most of the figures for Poser were made by DAZ (then Zygote :-) & they still hold copyright over them. Needless to say you can't violate your own copyright :-) B) "Orc" is a term Tolkien "borrowed" (like most of his names/languages) The earliest confirmed reference to orc as an evil creature date back to Old English glossaries circa 800A.D. I believe 1200+ years is a sufficient period for any copyright to have expired :-) C) The term Vampire dates to 1734. Ditto B "if I took vicky and made her 400 pounds and put warts all over her face, made her a bit shorter, gave her a different skin tone/texture/etc. and changed her name to 'jenny from the bronx' (heh), then 400 pound jenny would be mine. period." Try doing that to the original Vicki mesh & distributing it as your own creation & I'll bring the DMCA powered +30 damage "hammer of god" down on you so fast it will make your mouse spin :-) D.M. Gorski Copyright Enforcement Agent DAZ 3d Productions Inc. abuse@daz3d.com