"But if I took vicky and made her 400 pounds and put warts all over her face, made her a bit shorter, gave her a different skin tone/texture/etc. and changed her name to 'jenny from the bronx' (heh), then 400 pound jenny would be mine. period." So very wrong. The texture, if it were totally your creation, would be yours. Changing the apparent weight and skin condition and renaming the character would not relieve DAZ of their copyright. Just making these assertions doesn't make them so. Actually believing them would be no excuse in court, should they lead to action against someone believing them. By the way, one of the persons correcting your misinformation in this thread is DAZ' copyright agent. I wouldn't suggest continuing on this gravely mistaken line of thinking, and more importaintly, don't even consider trying to get away with actually doing something like that. It WILL be noticed by this very aware community, which does not take kindly to infringement or the sort of "reasoning" that infringers use to justify their errors.