Realy qiuck before i'm of to work. i must agree with most of what Keith has stated here about the hot20. Last time i looked i had 5 images in there. Now, I know they have quality but are they realy that good, to give me 1/4 of all places? I doubt that very much. I see the work of grb, qaryon, jockc or encrypted to name just a few, and i'll ask myself, what do these people have to do more to get some final recognition ? I believe the hot20 is a refelction of the mix of quality AND popularity. I don't believe it is popularity on it's own Keith... But anyway, don't take it too seriously, i still have to recieve my first cash for being in there ...grin... have a great day all !!