Jacqui wrote: "which successful poser community site does not "serve the commercial interests..."? even rosity is about serving the commercial interests of Bondware. so daz's community site is no different than any other community site " Most community sites have to take some money somehow to survive. That gives them a commercial interest to some degree. But Daz existed as a company long before it ever thought of opening a forum, and it makes its own products. Daz is there to promote Daz products. There ARE no Renderosity products; Renderosity is just a marketplace that takes a commission on sales. It doesn't have a product line to promote in the way that Daz has. And since the RMP is 99% Poser, all the people who come to Renderosity for the Rhino community, the Amapi community, etc, don't see any commercial side to Renderosity at all. It's purely a community for them. Is there a flourishing Rhino forum at Daz? If you tell me there is I'll be surprised.