For the record folks, when I did the original Waiting Room scene (my thread is the one that started this whole shebang), I also was missing the plant textures, but I ignored that and rendered the scene without it. I simply wanted a relatively complex scene to test the rendering speed. So don't worry if you're missing the textures. If everyone wants to be onan even keel with the original reference, simply use Waiting Room without the textures at the resolution and render settings I used. If you go through the original thread, you'll see that the problems apparently lies somewhere in either the chipset and/or the Presscott based P4 and how Vue interacts with it. There maybe similar problems with the Northwood P4 core, but that's not clear at this time. nanotyrannus, what are the motherboard chipset and buss specs for those systems you worked on, do you know? You've gained roughly a 20% increase in rendering speed, which while better than the figures I've had, doesn't appear to be that great a difference considering the obvious hardware diffferences. thomllama, considering your hardware specs, I would imagine seeing something in the upper 40s at least, but you may be experiencing multiprocessor overhead. Either that, or Vue isn't all that well compiled for the new Mac architecture either. It'd be interesting to see what a dual Xeon sytem with similarly clocked CPUs would give.