if you paid attention to everything i said, instead of just picking and choosing what you want to criticise, then you would have remembered from that post last week that i said poser was already on this computer when i got it, that topic was dropped LAST WEEK. you're beating a dead horse. secondly, i didn't import anything into poser when those renders were created. I DIDN"T KNOW HOW TO DO 90% OF ANYTHING IN POSER when those images were created. I could move the figure around and pose it in various possitions. that's it. then i hit the PRINT SCREEN button, pasted it into paintshop, and converted to a jpg. That brick wall that you think i imported was created using windows paint - it started out as a 1x1 tile of brick (a FREE background texture for websites - its called clipart). I copy/pasted the tile until i had a sheet of bricks big enough, then rotated and angled it in macromedia's fireworks (which my brother bought and installed on here back when he was big on creating a website for his gamer's guild). 90% of the work in my renders were done using fireworks. Lighting was done using paintshop. The only poser material is the figure itself, with the grey background being edited out with the eraser tool in fireworks.