Hoborg... Yeah, 2000b uses a lot of resources, but not THAT much, and it can do JUST the 98 version stuff - it doesn't have to be set up to do EVERYTHING. That's why they have a lot of their stuff as downloadable plugins now. And as far as taking up too much screen space - I don't understand that. Do you have it docked on your desktop? I just have the icon running in my taskbar over next to the clock, and the window only pops up when I right-click it to send someone a message. I hate the dock feature just because it DOES take up too much screen space. That's why I never use it. But hey, to each his own. Some people love ICQ, and some people hate it. And having an older version shouldn't lock you out of the interest group since it is web-based really... just surf over to check it out. So far Clint and I are the only ones on it... 8^) HG... P.S. Just out of curiousity, Hoborg. Just how much RAM do you have? 25% of resources sounds like a lot. Maybe ICQ takes up more than I realize....