Hey thanks bud. I tried typing in praying and got a mantis lol. do you know how to add a woodland type grass plane? I have the daz spooky trees but other than that I don't really know how to build a forest type setting. I don't really use poser much so I am not really familiar with how to do sky and ground planes. I guess I could read the manual but I hate manuals. (boring) And yes it is for the same scene. It will all make since ounce I post the PIC. If you have any ideas on this one let me know.