Good point Gareee, if someone releases something that is buggy, promises to fix the bugs, and then doesn't and has a complete new release six months later, what we really ought to do is talk to a class action lawyer rather than say anything. As you point out, talking is useless. That said, I expected Poser 5 SR4 to be free. It was, and I'm happy with the product. I expect to pay for Poser 6, assuming I'm still doing renders then. I'm just a hobbiest. As you appear to be in flaming people. Consider that the question was "Where are the Mimic 2Pro patches that were promised?" not "My buddy wants 3.0 for free." He'd be quite happy with just the patches. He'd pay for 3.0 if it were anything more than 2pro with the patches completed. BTW, it appears that DAZ is taking care of the issue and will have it resolved over the weekend. Anyway, interesting posting here.