Yea. I don't blame the vendors at all. But I'm done buying from daz because Poser is just a minor diversion for me (but I've bought a lotta Poser stuff, hehe). As such I don't want to buy anything and 'wonder' whether it might work. Also, in another thread daz' answer to a pretty basic question was quite unsatisfactory. Sounds to me like they leave P5 customers in the lurch unnecessarily over their pissing contest with CL, which is fine. But in the mean time I'm done with daz.