I have seen talk like that also. Actually it has disappointed me. I sort of think that for the time Carrara's render is ok. I think they should be concentrating on their modeler rooms. I would like to see them majorly reworked. I also would like to see them dump a few hundred hours into animation...I really really wish they would get bones working...sort of dumb you have to wait for a 3rd party to do this. Actaully I am getting a bit worried. I decided a few months ago that if a new owner wasnt announced by the end of the year I was going to move on...they dont have much time left and I see that Truespace is coming out with a new version. I am guessing that I will always keep using carrara..after all some of its wizards for text, landscapes, etc are awesome. I just am ready to move forward and I want better software...COME ON UPGRADE :)