Uh...me. I use the cloth room and the material room for just about every product I do. A good portion of my P4 stule textures start out as P5 materials. My drapingmethod for skirt and clothing morphs are all augmented by the cloth sims I use. That's why randym77 finds the Fantasy set so easy to use in the cloth room, it was made to use it. It's be interesting to make a complete scene using NOTHING but P5 procedural materials, the hair room, and the cloth room. Even down to procedural skin.... Now I gotta do it.