XENOPHONZ, thanks for your comments. I'm really tired of the debates, because it doesn't change any minds. It's an excersize in futility. And many of those who have opposite views tend to get nasty and/or illogical, so it's not worth it anymore. I have posted things just as a way to show the other side of the argument. Sometimes, I let things really torque me, like a recent post that implied that America is a nation of rapists and torturers. That kind of stuff is designed to push buttons, and serves no useful purpose. Thanks again for your comments.