Poor horse LOL Will probably take you up on that Bonni. You were on my short list of people to ask to join our testing team anyway ;) Yeap, crosstalk is a bug. No doubt about it. It's just one that many modellers have taken advantage of :) Like a lot of Poser's little quirks. So when a new version comes along that basically says 'Screw you, figure out another way to do it', you get kinda cranky :) Now, I add morphs named differently to areas that generally rely on crosstalk/hacks/whatever, so that when it fails in P5, the morphs should still work fine when dialed in manually. This means a bit of extra work for the P5 user (twist a dial or two) but other than making dynamic clothing I don't see another way to combat poke thru on figures that use pre-P5 quirks. P5 hair shudder