Ynsaen: 1 -- "They're...just friendly rivals." I've been in business long enough to know that's a naive notion ;) 2 -- I didn't whine about it at all. I just returned it because it didn't work on the latest version of Poser. 3 -- Dunno. I've no interest in P4 vs P5 issues, only whether a product works with the latest version. 4 -- Ditto #3. My complaint was quite valid. Your "don't whine" stuff sure is bossy. You a daz employee?