None taken Tunesy. Would never be so bold as to assume anyone other than my children actually know who I am ;) As I said before, I am attempting to support P5, and if I can figure it out (without having P5 installed, as I no longer own it and that is a REALLY long story LOL) the LL Outfit will be updated to work with P5 :) Thank you for the compliment :) Daz do have a disclaimer on site, although not on every product. I believe it's in the FAQ's? Someone will correct me if I'm wrong ;) I do understand where ynsaen is coming from though. We old forum hounds hear everything, and tend to know what's going on, and assume everyone else does. Because that's the way it used to be. The Poser community 'used to be' a close knit group. Now though, as stated in this thread, a lot of P5 owners don't even know R'osity exists. We just need to wrap our heads around that :)