MAC's can see invisable folder too, Macs can find them and have been finding them for the past 10 years snice i used them,, you do see the !DAZ files, on a G3, G4, and even the G5. there is even a option to locate invisbable files in case you didn't know, i have to agree with Carol. Mac users can find these files from any program. On a PC you can't see it. But on a MAC you can. Don't put on the shades man and think your cool when the sun isn't even shining. V1, V2, V3, M1. M2. M3. SP, David, ect. when these products came out, everyone RUSH to da to buy them and prasie them. Now People are singing a diffrenet tune. Fixing a hole where the rain gets in, keeps my POSER from wondering where will Daz go?? if your happy with WHAT you have keep it, if you like what other vendors are selling here or anywere else that is P5 compatiable and you like it, and its a good price buy it. where does it say it has to be DAZ? they started that !DAZ thing about 2 years ago,, and some of us brokers were told NOT to put the (!) there, to me a model is a model, as long as it does its job. wheather it comes from here or somewhere else and it works. i'm happy. not everything HAS to be Daz.so let the choice be yours. go render something beautiful, and use the models of your choice.