But the good thing is, you can get started up in bryce within a couple of minutes. Not take months learning the app. Rendering and lighting is also really easy.. There's nothing complex, no shader porting to Renderman or Vray, it's just a few clicks and bam done. Well more like a few clicks and.. waits a few hours done. I'll admit that the rendering engine is pretty bad.. I mean, volumetric lights and soft shadows mixed with transparent materials shouldn't cause your computer to EXPLODE. Even simple scenes. But I'm tired of defending bryce...at this point I say let people think what they want. But I posted my image over at deviant art and got private messages like "wait, you used bryce for this? what's bryce?" "I don't understand what you mean by bryce" "this looks good for bryce" etc. Like drac said, I don't think that people who constantly flame bryce have really seen our top 20, or gallery for that matter. Bryce has a HUGE user base because it is so accessible and easy to learn.