It's Esprit, not Pro, running on WinXp Pro, version is (I think) 4.22 or whichever the latest patch was. That seems to be the only one where the transmap really don't wanna know, but I'm not 100% certain on that. I'll have to fiddle some more and see if any other things do it. (I usually paint the hair) No Mover 5. It's not dynamic hair, it's the ultimate changing ponytail from daz. Someone suggested that perhaps it was having problems with the actual changer of the ponytail and that might be why it's happening. (the not bringing the tail over on an imported PZ3) Ideally I want to import the pz3 with the complete ponytail. The obj test was just to see if it will bring the tail over with that. (Which it did, but no transmapping will take) I'll experiment some more and report back.

Silke