Hi Sharen. :) Doin' great; how about you? Thanks again for the CD you sent me over a year ago with all those models of your's and Mike's on it, that's some really great stuff! I just built myself a new PC...yeah, literally, I built it myself, starting with the chassis and motherboard, which is a big deal to me, at least, because I had no idea what I was doing going into it, but it works great... it had better work great-- I put alot of money into designing exactly what I wanted. I wasn't sure if all my apps would play nice with XP Pro, so I set it up as a dual boot with Win 98 SE, but XP runs everything much better, it seems. Anyhow, I'll be around more often now, and maybe I'll see if I can find the time to do something for the current challenge. Agiel and Jcleaver, thanks for the "idea" about the update. Strange, but it hadn't even occurred to me. The last update I got was 4.12, and I can't remember what the problem was, but I had put a text file into the folder on the CD I burned it to saying "Don't Use 4.12!" shrug But, I'm downloading 4.22 right now, and I'll give it a shot and see what happens. I just finished installing all my apps on my new drive, so there's nothing saved...no scenes or pics or anything yet, so if I have to wipe a Vue 4 installation and reinstall, no big deal. From what I remember, the "back" thingie after updating Vue 4 didn't always work right. Anyway, see y'all soon!