...but I've noticed that FWT usually knows whereof he speaks This time it seems I don't. ;) My first mistake was assuming you were using C3 instead of reading your first post a bit more carefully. And I've finally gotten the chance to delve into the tutorial in the Carrara Studio 3 Handbook... from which my suggestion is taken ... and frankly my results are different than what Mike has in print. When I insert a cube in the vertex modeller in C3, it comes in with 6 polygons, one per side... nothing triangulated ... and the - and + keys are doing nothing. So maybe I missed something. Glad you got a method figured out that works for you, though... happy modelling! :)