Yeah, the landscapes look good but how many landscape textures are going to be included with C4. If we have to make procedurals from scratch that's going to be tough! Vue gives plenty of stuff upfront & provides solid building blocks for experimentation. C3 has poor textures for it's trees within the plant generator & that was a new improved feature over C2. Will they help us out with a sophisticated series of texture maps or not? Will probably get both upgrades for Vue & Carrara, just hope my other half don't mind!!