Yeah, hopefully they made it work as you say, because even with the improvements in C3, the landscapes still didn't look that great, not without a lot of effort... Well at least in comparison to Bryce or Vue. Personally I like using a dedicated scenery app (Vue is my favorite, but Mojoworld and Artmatic Voyager are also good fun too). But even though I have seen some awesome models created in Bryce and Vue, WOW these often take a long time to make. well I better start selling some of these Playstation 2 games so I can afford to buy both Vue5 and C4Pro! -Paul