I really see this whole thing as a great opportunity gone mediocre. The whole C4 Std and C4 Pro thing...what other software has done that successfully. Look at Inspire and LW. Not to mention what will become of Carrara Basics? Trying to appeal to everyone is admirable but often difficult in the marketplace. It seems a better approach would be to fine tune and fully develop the tools in C3. If you want to have different levels of your software than go the Maxon (C4D) approach. Adding awesome modules as needed. Maxon is one company that has not only listened to its' users but embraced their opinions. One more note before I get off my pedestal, can software companies come out with true updates instead of "point" updates that really don't add much for the consumer but does add $ to the companies pockets? Stop incorporating existing plugins and calling it an upgrade! [Jumps of pedestal] Maybe they will listen for C5, or C4.5 :)