"bending of light as it travels" Travels or passes. (which is one of the two words always used in the definitin of refraction) Both which mean the subject has some sort of transparency... Metal is not transperent, not even a little bit, at least a chrome table leg is not. So, no refraction is possible. Nor, is REAL radiosity in Bryce, so, there ya go. Sure, the air between two non-transparent objects can have refractive properties. (but I'm not sure if you would see any difference in Byce if you did this) (scene enveloping cube with refraction?) But, to apply a refraction setting to a non-transparent material is misleading to those needing to understand the DTE, imo. (I guess that's my real point/concern) No, it doesn't change/hurt anything, but it does cause members to ask whether or not the refraction level on their metal material is correct, lol... AS

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