OK... since I served myself on this platter I'll have to answer this by saying that much of what I do in Bryce is by trial and error or accident... if you will... I am just trying to more fully understand just exactly what it is I am doing... architectural modeling... no problem... but materials/terrains/techniques... A large gallery yes... but closely examined... not a lot of true technique there concerning the capabilities of Bryce... I have a long way to go... so bear with me... I am learning alot from you guys... only the future will tell if I can put it to practice? -Susan