This forum has become a complete waste of bandwidth, with the whingers dominating everything with their constant carping about one thing or another. This doesn't happen in the Terragen, Vue, Bryce or LightWave forums (or probably any other forum on this site). In the other forums, people actually welcome news of what companies are up to. For the 13 people that are left here, enjoy yourselves complaining about everything and congratulating each other about exorcising the nasty commercial posts from the forum. I fail to see the point of ever coming back in here. Enjoy your glorified lookup table.