well i've read the positive and the negative post on this product. and all i have to say is IF you have not messed with the Shade demo for a few months like i have and a few others. then the one who have not tried it shouldn't be throwing rocks at the company. We all know CL had its ups and downs like DAZ has, yet you still continue to support or use there products. you want to bring up the past. to me thats water under the bridge, and to those who haven't tried the new software, and still hold a grudge against CL in the past. may i kindly suggest you get in the boat and float down the waters under the bridge. As for other who have tried Shade demo, will be doing the smart thing, they will be walking across the bridge and letting bygones be bygones, and forget about the past. the question arises should this be posted in the Poser forums? Yes, Mainly because Its from Curious labs that make the product POSER 4 ,PPP, and P5 that you all use. Shade 7 is another program that can do wonders for our Posers. and that isn't an excuse. its just a fact, Most of all folks have been indulged into the DAZ Studio, but haven't really report o anything about Shade 7, and what it can do with your Poser. And as I have mentioned before i spread the word about this program to my clients and the people i do work for. Cause to me this product is worth endorsing to just about any one who enjoys creating art to their fullest degree. as the old saying goes, don't throw the baby out with the bath water. Unless you know what you are doing. We are Artists, we make art to please the eyes of others. For CL has my support, despite some of the rock throwers. So tho those who haven't tried it. don't be a expert critic, Download the Demo, Play around with it for a month or so, ( like you did with DAZ Studio) then you can put your 2 cents worth in. and throw the comments you want, as for me I'm a professional and i am going to get it. No matter what others think or say about it,. i've tried it, i like it, and dang sure going to put it to good use, Keep up the good work CL and E Front., for a excellent product,.