Dont get frustrated by the quality of the really good Brycers youll find here. That level will probably remain unobtainable for most of us, but who knows, you may be the new Rochr, given time. Even he had to learn. I think, :o) What you should do is try and make each image better than the previous, try a new technique each time and dont get dispirited if they dont make that Hot 20 thing straight away. What the best images show is that Bryce is capable of far more than most beginners expect. New Brycers produce the sort of picture they do because thats what they think its capabilities are. Then they see the stuff put out by rochr, woodhurst, alvinayala etc. Its an eye opener, isnt it? So, enjoy Bryce at the level you are at, (you will improve)dont be afraid to post here or ask questions, nobodys going to crush you, and get that daughter of yours at it too. Who knows? :o)