All I can say is keep at it. Like Drac said "you can only attempt to improve yourself, and there will be moments in which you will be proud of yourself and the work you have done. You just have to hang in there, let the juices flow, keep an eye on the techniques presented, and wait until you can bottle it up no longer." When I came in here I didnt have any programs. Didnt have a clue how to use any of them. I went to gallery after gallery, mistified (sp?) at the work these guys are capable of. Then figured I wasnt satified just looking at what they could do I wanted to do it too. Got Bryce toyed with it a bit then went read as many tuts as I could understand. Went back to the gallerys and tried to figure out how they were doing want was in any givin pic. Im still not that great but Im not giving up. Im starting to get better (you can tell from my gallery) Thing to remember DONT BE INTIMIDATED TO ASK QUESTIONS!!!! These guys are THE MOST HELPFUL group (my opinion). If Ive had a question or need advice I get it. If i get asked how I did something Ill tell noprob:)