BTW Argon - were you asking for what was wrong in your images? I thought you were asking in regards to someone else's images. I actually leave 'rosity to get feedback about what is wrong with renders. People just don't feel like giving feedback beyond "hey, great!" and that sort of thing. Which I understand, but it isn't what I need to get better. and in post #36 spinner stated exactly why she dislikes NVITWS images - and frankly she isn't that far off. I just took a look at your gallery and I think that perhaps the real issue for you is that spinner hit a button? I'd say much of what I'm doing isn't much better, though I'm making progress. So as an example. Do you think that tutorials/tips would help in regards to any of the following: Adding shadows to your images; Not placing your characters with body parts in the floor or other "props"; Facial expressions; non-stiff poses? I actually feel that 'Rosity needs a FAQ/tutorial on those points for "for the first time before you post a render, consider ..." Though tlc is about to do a tutorial on using shadows to plant and how to do them with layers and alpha channels. http://www.sixus1.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=1596&start=30 I'm looking forward to that.