Just imagine how I feel, I bought it new, and it cost me a HELL of a lot more than the price of a mag;) Same goes for Carrara 1.1, which was free a while back. And DAZ has Bryce 5 for a lot less than I paid for it when it came out... sigh Sometimes I think it's just not worth buying new software. Luckily, the copy of Cinema 4D 6 that I got free from 3D World last year makes up for all of that.:D