What this place needs is the option of not allowing people to vote on an image when you post it. Personally, I don't want my images in the Hot 20 anymore. The whole thing disgusts me because it's not about the art, it's about the person. Arend's right, there are some great art pieces that should be there, but never will because they don't comment on every post or are new artists. If people are leaving, it's not because people are trying to fix the Hot 20, but because the negative politics that drive it are turning people off. It doesn't look like anything is ever going to be done to improve the system, and after reading this thread and seeing all the quickly ruffled feathers, nobody is going to change their opinion on anything, so it's going to go on and on and on....