Please keep comments to the merits of the mesh and or texture... for politicians of both parties. Saying a mesh doesn't look stupid enough doesn't help make it a closer match to the face in question. Saying that the forehead and chin need to be shorter and the face rounder or other such constructive criticism will help the artist better approach his goal. With the morphs I was making for Don, I started with the overall head shape until it matched the image I had in mind, and then worked down to ever smaller details, ending with nostrils and eyelids. If you start with the mouth, when you do the chin and jaw, it will deform, and then when you do the head shape, deform again. Better to work inward. Also, the nose and ears are a lot more important than you might think when it comes to that recognition factor. Carolly Renderosity Moderator